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coloradog1
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Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:26 pm Posts: 120 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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 Fan Set
Not sure what happened to the last thread. Must have gotten purged with all the spam.
Looking to do another fan set similar to what Melon had done in the past. Once finalized, the cards can then be printed with artscow or a similar service.
Please post card ideas here for review and discussion. A smaller set of 54 cards seems manageable and perfect for printing. Breakdown suggestion as follows:
Characters (28 cards) 4 per faction 1 Level one or two 1 Level two or three 1 Level three, four or five 1 Warlord
Actions (13 cards) 3 cards per class + 1 classless 1 Level one or two 1 Level two or three 1 Level four or five
Items (13 cards) 3 cards per class + 1 classless 1 Level two, three or four 1 Level four, five, or six 1 Level seven, eight, nine or ten
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:58 pm |
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Kyn
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Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Posts: 4092 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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 Re: Fan Set
Character and action numbers look good to me. I don't know how items were handled previously, but I'd consider changing to 1 level 2-4, 2 level 5-10. I don't recall how often "big" items get used, and it has been way too long since I've played, but I don't recall seeing much played about level 7.
_________________The sexiest he-[Censor: dog] in Wargolem's stable. 
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Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:04 pm |
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Kyn
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Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Posts: 4092 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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 Re: Fan Set
Also, this should be called 4th Edition Extended, Extended. 
_________________The sexiest he-[Censor: dog] in Wargolem's stable. 
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Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:05 pm |
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coloradog1
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Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:26 pm Posts: 120 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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 Re: Fan Set
Thanks for the feedback. Open to anything right now, really just need to get card ideas coming in.
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Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:23 pm |
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Woodrow
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Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:40 pm Posts: 2968 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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 Re: Fan Set
I'll post some ideas after GenCon.
_________________ 2012 Kentucky Halloween Tournament - Top Elf2014 Jeremiah Memorial Event - 2nd & Top FreeK2017 GenCon Ancients Event - 4th & Top Elf"We're just like Kevin Bacon!" - Anton Cyldragen
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Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:30 am |
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melon
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Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 4773 Location: Neko-neko-land
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 Re: Fan Set
You can, if you want, use the 4e Extended blog. I can add authors to it since I don't really use it anymore. I would offer to help but it's been so long since I played I'm not sure I have any concept of balance anymore.
_________________~~Melon-neko - Design Neko http://4extended.blogspot.com
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Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:23 pm |
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coloradog1
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Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:26 pm Posts: 120 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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 Re: Fan Set
Will probably take you up on the offer if this gains any traction.
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Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:39 pm |
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Kyn
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Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Posts: 4092 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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 Re: Fan Set
Also, thoughts on dropping the Chosen?
_________________The sexiest he-[Censor: dog] in Wargolem's stable. 
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Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:43 am |
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BlackHaliax
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Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:28 am Posts: 213
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 Re: Fan Set
I really like the chosen just as a race(the idea of them), if they could be tweaked to be a bit better to play they could work really well (could be said about everything though I guess)
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Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:44 pm |
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Kyn
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Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Posts: 4092 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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 Re: Fan Set
Roll them into mercs?
_________________The sexiest he-[Censor: dog] in Wargolem's stable. 
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Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:48 am |
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Woodrow
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Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:40 pm Posts: 2968 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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 Re: Fan Set
I vote nuke both and make a Monster faction and then characters from each faction with the Mercenary trait (can be played in any faction).
_________________ 2012 Kentucky Halloween Tournament - Top Elf2014 Jeremiah Memorial Event - 2nd & Top FreeK2017 GenCon Ancients Event - 4th & Top Elf"We're just like Kevin Bacon!" - Anton Cyldragen
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Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:38 pm |
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Woodrow
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Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:40 pm Posts: 2968 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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 Re: Fan Set
So are you wanting to build off 4E, build off 4Ex, or start a completely new format?
_________________ 2012 Kentucky Halloween Tournament - Top Elf2014 Jeremiah Memorial Event - 2nd & Top FreeK2017 GenCon Ancients Event - 4th & Top Elf"We're just like Kevin Bacon!" - Anton Cyldragen
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Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:48 pm |
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BlackHaliax
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Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:28 am Posts: 213
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 Re: Fan Set
Aren't the chosen essentially monsters? so they would then have their own faction
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Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:47 pm |
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Woodrow
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Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:40 pm Posts: 2968 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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 Re: Fan Set
No, they're an Egyptian-like human race that worships and summons demons.
I don't think it works for this fan-made addition to the game, but if we were starting fresh, I'd strongly recommend removing Mercs and Chosen and making a Monster faction where you can put your weird creatures. I'd make Mercenary a trait that some characters from all factions have that means they can go into any deck.
Waiting on an answer to the 4E etc. question.
_________________ 2012 Kentucky Halloween Tournament - Top Elf2014 Jeremiah Memorial Event - 2nd & Top FreeK2017 GenCon Ancients Event - 4th & Top Elf"We're just like Kevin Bacon!" - Anton Cyldragen
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Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:51 am |
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coloradog1
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Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:26 pm Posts: 120 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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 Re: Fan Set
I think a continuation of 4E Extended is the best way to run this project. As a fan set, people can do anything they want with it (4E, 4E Extended, Open, Ancients, etc.) so I am not sure it really matters. I would personally prefer not to make any major changes. I would be okay with not including The Chosen, but I really don't think any other changes would be good as it seems to remove some legitimacy from the project. At the end of the day, I someone submits a card and people generally accept it then it works for me.
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Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:41 pm |
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